The New Evangelization of Hearts and Minds – Archbishop Bernard Longley Interview with Zenit in Rome

Peter Jennings writes: The Most Reverend Bernard Longley, Archbishop of Birmingham, a Synod Father and Relator of English Language Working Group B, at the XIII Ordinary General Assembly for the New Evangelization, gave an exclusive interview to Ann Schneible, a correspondent for ZENIT English Edition, outside the Synod Hall, in Rome, on Tuesday 23 October. The wide-ranging interview was published in two parts by ZENIT English Edition, on Wednesday 24 and Thursday 25 October. It is reproduced in full here courtesy of ZENIT.

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The Most Reverend Bernard Longley, Archbishop of Birmingham, pictured during his interview with Ann Schneible, a correspondent for ZENIT English Edition, outside the Synod Hall, in Rome, on Tuesday 23 October.

The Prayerful Camaraderie of Bishops (Part One) by Ann Schneible

“We have to find ways of touching people’s hearts, as well as engaging their minds.” These are the words of Archbishop Bernard Longley of Birmingham, UK, Synod Father for the XIII Ordinary General Assembly for the New Evangelization, which is currently in its third and final week here in Rome.

Archbishop Longley spoke with ZENIT about the prayerful sense of community which this Synod affords those who are participating, and about the work of the Holy Spirit in the mission of the New Evangelization.

ZENIT: We are now into the third and final week of the Synod. What have been your impressions up to this point?

Archbishop Longley: “At the moment I have a range of contrasting impressions. First of all, regarding the first week of the Synod, it was a period of really intense listening, and the quality of our time together at prayer, reflection, and listening to one another was very beneficial. Especially for bishops: so often when we are at occasions in our own dioceses, people look to us to pass on a message, or some insight in our preaching, in our teaching and in what we say. But in these days, we have been called together in the presence of the Holy Father to listen to one another, and that requires an intense kind of listening, to be deeply obedient to the voice of the Holy Spirit speaking through the Synod fathers, and through the Holy Father. I think it models some of the things we’re looking for in the new evangelization.

“The way that we have been listening to one another encourages us when we return to our dioceses, and in the future, to listen intently to what the Holy Spirit is saying within the communities we are seeking to serve, as well in those places where there is goodness and truth, as the Second Vatican Council reminded us: amongst our brothers and sisters who are baptized in other Churches, among people of good will of other faiths, and among people who are seeking truth in their own lives. My first impression, then, was one of gratitude for the opportunity to listen quietly and prayerfully to one another.

The second week, moving into the “circoli minori” (language groups) with the production of the Propositions, has been very creative, and I’ve been uplifted by the insights of some of the experts, as well as some of my brother bishops and Synod Fathers. In particular, with regard to those things that concern young people and that concern the poor, and being able to see people not just as the objects of the new evangelization, but actually as the agents of the New Evangelization. The way in which the Propositions have emerged has also been very impressive because these Propositions have their roots in those first few days of listening, and a prayerful listening to one another. I think it has brought about a remarkable consensus.

“I was involved as a Relator in the process of gathering together Propositions, first of all in my own language of English (English Language Working Group B), and then in the different languages. It was astonishing to see how there was a consensus beginning to emerge about the sorts of areas that we wanted to focus on in the Propositions. That process will continue as we enter the third and final phase of the Synod where there will be modifications and amendments to the proposals over the next few days.”

ZENIT: What do you hope to take from this Synod to bring to the people back home, especially the laity?

Archbishop Longley: “Above all, I want to bring back that sense of being at one with the Holy Father and with the bishops of the Church gathered in this Synod.

“I know there is an awareness of that in my own Archdiocese in Birmingham in the UK, where the celebrations for the Year of Faith have already begun remarkably well. I was very uplifted, and I think my own contribution to this Synod has been sustained by the prayers of the parishioners, priests, deacons, and religious in my own diocese at home. On the Sunday following the Holy Father’s Mass opening the Year of Faith, I heard that the number of people at our St Chad’s Cathedral in Birmingham was greater than it  could hold.  The special Mass for our opening of the Year of Faith had to be relayed to people in another venue nearby.

“There is that sense of enthusiasm amongst our own people to be the New Evangelizers, and I want to reinforce that this is the work of the Holy Spirit, the same Spirit Who is guiding this Synod of Bishops with the Holy Father, the same Spirit Who is drawing these good things up from the people within our parishes at home.”

ZENIT: You delivered one of the Interventions at this Synod, and also presented a report from your English Language group discussion. Could you outline some of the main points of these addresses?

Archbishop Longley: “One of the central things, in my own Intervention, was the way in which the Holy Spirit works through the mind and through the heart together. I gave the example of Blessed John Henry Newman and how he himself was intellectually convinced of the claims of the Catholic Church. Cardinal Newman knew that this is where the Lord was leading him, and yet for himself he needed his heart to be touched. His beautiful motto, ‘Cor ad cor loquitur’, (Heart speaks unto heart) is a very fitting motto for the process of the work for the New Evangelization. We have to find ways of touching people’s hearts, as well as engaging their minds. The two must go together; we cannot neglect either.

“The thing that touches people’s hearts is the example of Christian life within families, within marriages, when reaching out to the poor and those who are in particular need in local societies.  It is in the desire to actually love, in the sense of being willing to give of ourselves, to spend our own energy for the good of others, whatever the return seems to be for ourselves, that we will show our faith. The example of Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta has come back from time to time in our own Synod here, in images and in the Interventions of the Synod Fathers, especially those from India.  It reminds that the simplicity of a life of faith lived well, with concern for those who are in need, evangelizes effectively.  It moves people to want to explore the content of our faith.”

The New Evangelization of Hearts And Minds (Part Two) by Ann Schneible

Archbishop Bernard Longley spoke with ZENIT about the New Evangelization, and the example which Blessed Dominic Barberi and Blessed John Henry Newman bring to the faithful in the Church.

 ZENIT: Throughout the Synod we have been hearing a great deal about the role of the laity in the New Evangelization. However, what is being said about the importance of promoting religious vocations, especially among young people?

Archbishop Longley: “There is a very strong emphasis on the value of consecrated life within the Church and for the New Evangelization; and recognition that the appreciation for the consecrated life and the life of the religious, as well as for the vocation to ordained ministry, has its roots in the family. The appreciation within the family for those gifts of ministry, especially in terms of ordained ministry, the sharing in our Lord’s own priesthood, springs from an appreciation for the priesthood of Christ as experienced in the lives of priests and deacons within the Church.

“The role of the laity in itself is a theme that is emphasized also, because working in collaboration with those in ordained ministry, lay faithful are in the places where they can preach through the example of their lives, their own witness to the faith, for example as journalists, as politicians, as people in public life, as those in healthcare, indeed in all spheres of activity. This reminds people of the vision of the Second Vatican Council: this universal call to holiness is also a call to evangelize in the world. Lay Catholics in their professional and public life, and within their family life and among their neighbours as well, have an opportunity to reach where, very often as pastors, it is very difficult for us to reach.”

ZENIT: The Patron for the Archdiocese of Birmingham for this Year of Faith is Blessed Dominic Barberi. Could you speak about why he was chosen as the Patron?

Archbishop Longley: “The relationship between Blessed Dominic Barberi of the Mother of God – the Italian Passionist priest who had a burning desire to come to England and to evangelize there – and Blessed John Henry Cardinal Newman, is something I mentioned in my Intervention. Blessed John Henry Newman’s heart was touched by the example and the witness of this Italian Passionist. We’ve adopted Blessed Dominic Barberi as the Patron for the New Evangelization and the Year of Faith in our own Archdiocese in Birmingham, not least because next year is the 50th anniversary of his beatification.

“I want to encourage people to intensify prayer, especially for the intervention of Blessed Dominic and Blessed John Henry Newman, because it would be marvellous to see them both eventually canonized, perhaps together, if that is the will of the Lord.”

ZENIT: “You were appointed Chairman of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales Special Commission on Overseas Seminaries. There is a rich history of mission attached to those seminaries, especially at the time of the Reformation at a time when it was illegal to train priests in England. For instance, the Venerable English College here in Rome, which this year celebrates its 650th anniversary, has such a history. Could you speak about promoting, or renewing this spirit of mission throughout this Year of Faith?

Archbishop Longley: “I am delighted that I’ve been called upon by my own Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales to serve our three seminaries overseas – the two seminaries here in Rome, the Venerable English College and the Beda College; also St Alban’s College, Valladolid in Spain.

“The history of the Venerable English College reaches back to the time of the Reformation as a seminary, and as a hostel for pilgrims to Rome much before, emphasizing the link between England and Wales, and the Holy See.  The Beda College, a Pontifical College situated near to Saint Paul’s Outside the Walls, was developed principally for older vocations; those who were converts to the Catholic Faith.

“The two old colleges spring from a desire to ensure that the Catholic faith wasn’t lost within England and Wales, and now they give our seminarians in those places an extraordinary experience of the Universal Church. That is something which they carry with them into ministry as priests.

“I am grateful that all three of our overseas seminaries are well supported. The men who come home as priests to England and Wales have a very deep sense not only the bond of with the Holy Father, but of the universality of the Church. These are two things which we have experienced in a remarkable way during this Synod of Bishops on the New Evangelization.”

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Archbishop Bernard Longley pictured in front of St Peter's Basilica, Rome, on Tuesday, 23 October 2012.

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